- July 21, 2014 at 7:01 pm #1885
As some of you have seen, may of us aren’t playing ESO as hard-core as we were. This is because of several reasons, however from the folks I have talked to, here is some of the collective reasons I have gathered.
- PVP is unbalanced
- PVP is infested with exploiters, farmers, and hackers
- PVE is like every other game — grind until you drop
- Lack of depth, lack of story
These seem to be the top-four issues that most of us are having with ESO and what adds insult to injury is the slow pace at which Zenimax responds to these issues and sometimes an even lack of a response entirely.
Most of us still have subscriptions, however in order to prevent ourselves from despising the game and never returning, we are playing other games to take a break from the ESO grind. Most of us will be returning, but just not right now. We are playing other games ranging from Star Trek Online to Neverwinter to PlanetSide II. Anyone reading this is more than welcomed to join us on either of these free to play games while we unwind from ESO.
We do expect to hit ESO hard again in August, hopefully after school starts back to give us adults a break from the childishness of PVP.
- Chip Patton was here.July 26, 2014 at 11:13 am #1893
I find 3 & 4 hard to believe. Those who grinded and didn’t go through the story line should make a new character, there’s more dialogue in this than most MMORPG’s. I think 1 & 2 were caused by the poor decision to move to (and maintain) Chrysamere.
I’m playing Dawnbreaker and it’s a real back and forth battle. I suggest we move campaigns, boot any non active members and start recruiting on Dawn.July 27, 2014 at 9:57 am #1898
I agree with Observant, I switched to Dawnbreaker and am having a lot of fun. Lots of back and forth fighting and overall a great time. We could help a lot on that server if we had everyone return and I think everyone would have a great time doing so.July 28, 2014 at 1:46 am #1900
I find 3 & 4 hard to believe. Those who grinded and didn’t go through the story line should make a new character, there’s more dialogue in this than most MMORPG’s. I think 1 & 2 were caused by the poor decision to move to (and maintain) Chrysamere. I’m playing Dawnbreaker and it’s a real back and forth battle. I suggest we move campaigns, boot any non active members and start recruiting on Dawn.
The PVE part was stated because it can quite literally be completed in a couple of weeks of playing just a few hours per day. Most of the MMO’s I’m versed in, the story line takes well over a year to complete (like EverQuest) and even then you have had to skip huge chunks of story.
As for Chrysmere, the choice to stay was my choice and I accept responsibility in that poor choice — however it is a situation that should not have been allowed to have occurred by game design. Every other MMO out there with PVP has elements of farming, but not to the point where you are restricted to one or two servers in that balance actually exists and that all others suffer from a severe imbalance that makes the server appeal-able to only to corporate farmers.
For a game that requires a purchase of more than $40.00 and a $15.00 sub, you would expect it to be atop the rest of the mmo’s out there. ESO only has one advantage over other MMO’s — in that it is an aesthetically beautiful game, but when classes, combat, etc are so horribly imbalanced, when the story seems to fall short of an “endless” quest and when the developers are talking about removing vet levels entirely, you start to get the realistic idea that the game is “shallow”.
To be completely honest, most of us have been burned out. We’re tired of the drama, we’re tired of what I mentioned in the OP. I’ve completed the story lines — all of them. Right now, we’re trying to mellow out a bit before returning — hopefully we can just chill in a few other games, while hoping an ESO itch returns. Right as of this moment, I’m not feeling it, Rob isn’t feeling it, Cross isn’t feeling it, Constip isn’t feeling it, Iruu isn’t feeling it, most of the leadership is completely burnt out on it and asking or requesting them to continue at this point will lead to a permanent burnout.
- Chip Patton was here.July 28, 2014 at 3:34 pm #1910
Well if we’re just going to roll over and let drama win (it’s fairly easy to ignore imo) I’m going to go roll with Hijinx until faction management can grab this bull by the horns as I still like ESO PVP, I’m telling you Dawnbreaker is worth a try it’s just like the old days.July 29, 2014 at 10:44 pm #1917
I personally haven’t quit, but I have to have a break before I do. ATM, I’m liking EVE, and building a DR corp there. When we have things established here, I do plan on returning hopefully in August to get things back in order in ESO.
Who ever you need to roll with is up to you, but do understand that we do have a firm wall of separation up between our guild and Hijinx and that will most likely never change — “Screw me once, shame on you, Screw me twice….” is the sentiment. I would recommend if you are looking for a great, friendly crew with organization to look for COTN (Creatures of the Night or Night-Mother’s Vanguard) . Their TS3 info is ts3.cotnguild.com if you want to check them out. This is still today our sister guild. They were mainly PVE but are dabbling in PVP now.
- Chip Patton was here.July 30, 2014 at 10:34 am #1945
I’ve decided to join a small guild of about 30 members on a mumble server, great players. I might be able to get a merge down the road (These guys roll like the Alpha squad) & I had no idea about Hijinx I only joined because I seen Mighterknot and remembered him from before my 1 month hiatus… my bad!
If you guys play on Dawnbreaker or want to come take a peak at what it’s looking like, PM me for mumble info any time!July 31, 2014 at 7:47 am #1949
Well, I’m indeed happy to see there is some fun to still be had there man and very hopeful that you are having fun. I’m not sure what group that is you are running with but you should really look up Foleath and Jarolath and see what they’re running. I think they are on your server and they are in DR and COTN and usually have some nice raids running.
But as far as the state of the game is concerned, Kinnslayer met up with us in EVE just today for the first time in a few months and the conversation started, “So, did you guys get fed up with [5 min list of items], like I did?” And our reply was, “Its worse now”.
While it may sound bad, us moving to another game is re-grouping the guild. We have several folks that quit ESO months back that have re-joined us in EVE. What this means is that it is entirely possible that at a future date that we can indeed pull together a small fraction of the force we used to have in ESO; but these guys need a break.
- Chip Patton was here.October 17, 2014 at 1:52 pm #2187
Just saw that Hijinx thread from a while ago… lol. Now I see what you meant. My bad!
I’m still playing quite actively and being optimistic about DR coming back to ESO. In the meantime, I’ve been playing with a small group of about 10-15 players, all quite skilled and active. I’ve put a message in the Guild message of the day to message me in-game if still active and I can set any DR members up with some skilled players while waiting for the return of the rest of the crew.
The game does still have it’s flaws, but the PVP has gotten a lot better and more stable. The group trials and vet dungeons are great fun as well. Next patch is a huge nerf to bat swarm too for the cherry on top.
That being said, does anyone want to come back to ESO in the near future?October 22, 2014 at 8:54 pm #2188
Honestly, I’ve thought about it. However the core here I think is not convinced yet. Rob has the demeanor that until it is free to play he won’t touch it with a 10 ft pole. Cross is fed up to the point he may never come back, Kilgorsmudge is meh about it the last I asked, and many others we’ve even lost contact with over the past 30 days like Bad Habbitz, Paled, and Laviitz.
I think your best bets right now is myself and Travanix.
- Chip Patton was here.November 19, 2014 at 2:59 pm #2211
No more forward camps btw, it’s got that beta feeling again.
No more turtle shell for the oil pots though, due to oil needing a 6m drop before damage occurs.
I’ll continue posting the major PVP changes as they roll out into implementation.January 3, 2015 at 1:28 pm #2232
I’ve had a light urge to play again, but not sure if it’s worth my time anymore. Obsevant, did they ever smooth out the PvE aspect more yet? When I last played, it seemed every other quest was bugged.February 9, 2015 at 10:56 am #2238
i just heard they’re going free to play on march 17th. hopefully i’ll see you all in cyrodiil then.February 10, 2015 at 11:57 pm #2241
We’re thinking about returning in March when it goes free to play. We have no guarantees on how long we will be there — many things have to change about the game, mainly including the administrators’ view towards hacking and the response time at which they stop in-process hacking/cheating events in PVP.
At the moment some of us are very content with EVE and Elite: Dangerous. EVE handles hacking and cheating very swiftly and very harshly which is exactly what one would expect from a game that bills itself as a “significant PVP content” as ESO did on their boxes in GameStop. Elite: Dangerous is very new right now but it seems they too are on top of the cheating — a very small indie company runs this game far better than I saw ESO run and they have been on top of every issue I have seen thus far.
I’m hoping to see that ESO has rectified these issues in their management of the game — I’m not as concerned about new content as I am them fixing what they had and making things more balanced and stopping the hacking and cheating. If they have done this — then I’ll be more than happy to pick the game up again, and I’m also sure many others that quit will as well.
As for Elite: Dangerous, if anyone is curious I have a page with some short clips of in-game play. The first movie shows you the galaxy map and its trillions of star systems you can explore, fight in, mine in, etc. The second shows the docking/undocking system and combat system.
- Chip Patton was here.March 19, 2015 at 12:51 pm #2255
Seen a couple of familiar faces last night in Guild, very happy to see that people are starting to return!
The biggest issue with PVP at the moment is the horrendous lag and buff servers. Now that it’s free to play, a lot of the buff servers are slowly becoming populated again, that just leaves the terrible latency.
PVE is damn good, they’ve worked out most of the kinks in that, and the end-game trials are pretty fun. You definitely need an organized group to get through them in Hard Mode. Leader-boards are very competitive as well!
If there’s anything you guys need look for me in-game and I’ll be sure to help you out in any way I can.
I’ve been adding anything to the guild bank that I thought would be valuable but had no need for, so help yourselves there as needed!
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